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Jesus, a radical leap (into? . . . whereunto?)
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In my previous post, “Who murdered Jesus of Nazareth,” the first comment in my critique on Stephan Joubert’s prizewinning book “Jesus, a Radical Leap, Kingdom, Church and World: Where do you fit in?” I refuted his claim that Jesus came to abolish the Jewish religious and ethical text known as the Torah (Pentateuch) or the Law. To substantiate his own assertion he quotes Wolfgang Schrage, Emeritus Professor of New Testament at the University of Bonn, who said:
Beyond all doubt, Jesus denied the Torah the central place it had for Judaism. (1) (Emphasis added).
Professor E P Sanders, Dean Ireland’s Professor of Exegesis in the University of Oxford and Fellow of The Queen’s College had this to say about Ernst Käsemann’s and Wolfgang Schrage’s assertion that Jesus denied the Torah in one of his lectures in London in 1990. (2)
While many scholars have recognized that the so-called ‘antitheses’ are not antithetical, numerous others have regarded them as giving the very essence of Jesus’ supposed demolition of Judaism. I shall offer only a few examples. Käsemann focused attention on the opening words, ‘but I say’, and emphasized both the ‘but’ and the ‘I’―but on the contrary I―as being a unique claim to authority.
The words egō de legō embody a claim to an authority which rivals and challenges that of Moses. But anyone who claims an authority rivalling and challenging Moses has ipso facto set himself above Moses. . . . Rabbis may oppose each other in debate by the use of the formula ‘But I say’; but this is only a formal parallel, because, in the case we are discussing, it is not another rabbi but the Scriptures and Moses himself who constitute the other party. To this there are no Jewish parallels, nor indeed can there be. For the Jew who does what is done here has cut himself off from the community of Judaism―or else he brings the Messianic Torah and is therefore the Messiah. (3)
This packs an awful lot of misinformation into a few lines. “Brings the Messianic Torah” implies that it was generally thought that the Messiah would bring a new law hich would replace that of Moses, but there is no evidence in favour of such a view. More importantly, Käsemann supposes that the so-called antitheses are against the law of Moses, but they are not.
Schrage, though noting that Matthew did not understand the ‘antitheses’ as antithetical, agreed with Käsemann in holding that in these verses the historical Jesus opposed Moses and Scripture itself. This was unique. “In Judaism we never find a doctrine proposed that is counter to the Torah.” (4)
These dogmatic views (“In Judaism we never find…”, “there are no Jewish parallels, nor indeed can there be”) are in error. Let me start with the simplest point, whether or not the sayings attributed to Jesus can be read as being contrary to the law. They cannot. They supplement it and heighten it. The person who follows Jesus’ commands in these passages will never transgress the law itself. If Jesus’ followers never desire to commit adultery, they will not commit it; if they never become angry, they will not murder; if they do not divorce (the third antithesis), they will never transgress the law which prohibits a man from remarrying his first spouse after divorce and marriage to a different person. It is not against the law to be stricter than the law requires. . . .
Käsemann and Schrage did not assess all the Jewish material available to them on the topic of a claim to authority, nor on the question of modifying the law by heightening it.
They failed to do their homework. In Käsemann’s case, the Scroll which makes the boldest claim to authority (11QT) had not been published when he wrote. The historian must never forget his or her limits and should moderate his or her claims accordingly. As a theologian, Käsemann wished to tie a substantive question of Christianity―whether Jesus was ‘Messiah’―directly to what he (Käsemann) regarded as unique. This is an extremely strange way of doing Christology, though a large number, perhaps a majority of New Testament scholars engage in it. (Emphasis added throughout)
In imitation Of Ernst Käsemann and Wolfgang Schrage, Stephan Joubert interprets Jesus’ words “But I say unto you” as a categorical denial of the Law and that He had replaced it with his own. On page 87 of his book he says:
According to Jesus the antiquated view of the Law was fraught with the physical performance of these religious rules. In other words, if the law says: “Do not commit adultery,” or “Do not commit murder,” and people adhered to these laws to the letter by not physically committing adultery and murder, they were obedient to the law according to the Pharisees. Jesus disagreed with this.
Jesus places a radical new understanding of the law in verses 21-48 on the table which He introduced every time with the words: “but I say unto you.” For Jesus the law is the expression of a living relationship with God. The law for Jesus is all about relationships. It is the first radical difference between Him and the religionists. (Emphasis added)
OK! Let’s talk about relationships. If the law is all about relationships and the ultimate expression of a living relationship with God, it would mean that not the “antiquated” view but Jesus’ radical new understanding of the law is capable of bringing you into a right relationship with God and your fellowmen. If no mortal, except Jesus Christ, was able to keep the “antiquated” law of God 100%, 24/7, year in and year out, could there be anyone else who has kept or will ever be able to keep Jesus’ radical new understanding of the law? Let’s just take one of these radically new renditions of the law: “Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. (Mathew 5:27-28). You may argue that you have never committed a single act of adultery in your entire life and that you have skillfully avoided lustful thoughts. Well, if you are bold enough to boast in such a great and heroic feat then you must at least admit that you are a liar (1 John 1:8). As such, you have placed yourself squarely in Satan’s playing field, simply because he is the father of all lies since the beginning (John 8:44) and that alone disqualifies you from God’s extremely high standard of holiness. Let’s assume that you have broken this command only once in your entire life. Does it have any detrimental effect on your relationship with God and other people in any way? If not, then you don’t need a Savior. Therefore neither the “antiquated” Law nor Jesus’ enhancement of the Law is able to spawn an “expression of a living relationship with God.” It rather demonstrates a complete lack of such a relationship. Since it is true that only one act of disobedience warrants God’s righteous judgment to cast you into the lake of fire, you will remain doomed to destruction until you come to Jesus for your salvation. It is not your sins that will eventually be the determining factor for your suffering in hell, but your refusal to come to the ONLY Person who is able to forgive you and cleanse you of all your sins. That is why Jesus said:
You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. (John 5:39-40).
Jesus’ stricter application of the “antiquated” law was not a denial of that law but an enhancement of that law, proving that no man could ever boast that he is able to procure or sustain a relationship with God through the law or even Jesus’ stricter enhancement of the law in his Sermon on the Mount. A single transgression of the law is enough to shatter that relationship (Isaiah 59:1 and 2). I must admit, I cannot disagree with Stephan Joubert on his third point with regard to Jesus’ radicalizing of the law and the difference it showed between Him and the Pharisees. On page 88 he wrote:
Thirdly Jesus radicalizes the law. He makes it even more difficult for the Pharisees to uphold the law. For them it is about the outward upholding of rules, but for Jesus it concerns a radical change of heart. Obedience for Him is equal to new relationships with God and others. (Emphasis added)
If Jesus made it more difficult for the Pharisees to uphold the law it follows that He made the Law more difficult for us as well. It’s a pity that Stephan Joubert never once, in his entire book from pages 1 to 231, explains how hearts are radically changed. Instead he quotes Leonard Sweet who said:
Sin is not a breaking of commands; sin is a breaking of relationships. When we sin we do not break stone-bound laws, but heart-carved love—Leonard Sweet
Well now, that’s just not true! But let’s assume Leonard Sweet is correct. In order to break off a relationship and consequently commit the relational sin you must necessarily already be in a relationship. You cannot commit the relational sin unless you are already in a relationship. By implication it means that anyone who sins (according to Sweet’s estimate of relational sin) he or she must necessarily have been in a relationship with God all along. Therefore everyone is/was in a relationship with God. This is called Universalism, the belief that God’s spirit dwells in all people. But why would it bother Stephan Joubert when one of his closest buddies is an avid Universalist. Listen to his words:
When we start with creation and Genesis 1 we instantly enter into a world where every person has been invested with the image of God, with God-like authority and qualities and mandates. Notice, it is everybody, not just Christians filled with God’s Spirit.
In the Genesis account all humanity has the very breath of God. Everyone finds resonance here because these are things deep within the human psyche that are incontrovertible. They are intuitive soundings that “I am somehow made to be god, or divine or connected to the divine.” The benefit of this starting point for spiritual conversations is it is as universal as the Fall conversation, but it holds one huge advantage; it is the beginning of the story and it is a positive starting point. Is it any wonder people don’t gravitate toward the “You are heading to hell in a handbasket” conversation but do resonate with a “You have been made as the crowning glory of creation (Psalm 8)” conversation? (5) – Ron Martoia
Well now, that’s just not true. God Himself said in Genesis 6:3 “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever . . .” the reason being that the sons of God took for themselves wives from amongst the unbelievers and subsequently fell into the idolatrous ways of their spouses. Later Solomon committed the same transgression when he took for himself many wives and concubines from amongst the unbelieving nations who turned away his heart from God to idols (1 Kings 11:3). It is not God’s will for a believer to marry an unbeliever, simply because holy matrimony is a mirror image, if you will, of the relationship between the church (“ekklesia” or “called out ones,” believers) and Jesus Christ — the wife being a representative of the bride and the husband a representative of the Bridegroom and Head of the church (1 Corinthians 11:3). As such their marriage should reflect the holy and mystical bond between Christ and his bride. This mystical and holy bond cannot come to fruition when one of the partners is an unbeliever.
If, according to Martoia, every person and not only Christians filled with God’s Spirit has been invested with God-like authority (could the “God-like authority” be the judger-gene he is referring to?), and qualities and mandates, then Jesus was a liar because He said that unbelievers are dead in their sins even to the degree that the dead must bury their own dead. (Ephesian 2:1; Matthew 8:22). How can unbelievers possibly have God-like qualities when they are spiritually dead in their sins? Stephan Joubert is well aware of the incident in Jesus’ life in Matthew 8 and even refers to it on page 54 of his prizewinning book to prove how radical Jesus really was. And yet he indirectly and radically denies Jesus’ radicalism when he quotes Ron Martoia who categorically and radically rebuffs Jesus’ words in Ephesians 2:1 and Matthew 8.
What are the spiritual implications for the body of Christ when you espouse the same errors as Ron Martoia and Stephan Joubert? If, as they and many others in the emergent fraternity claim, all people have God-like authority, qualities and mandates, equal to Christians who are filled with the Spirit of God irrespective of their spiritual orientation, then they are not only blatantly disobeying Jesus (Romans 8:9), they are making a mockery of the genuine body of Christ (or bride of Christ) who is not supposed to form a spiritual bond or relationship with unbelievers. They are not supposed to regard them as brothers and sisters in the Lord. They cannot possibly be their brothers and sisters because unbelievers are NOT in the Lord, at least not until they are saved and baptized into the body of Christ (Romans 6:3—Please note, I am not referring to water baptism but redemption through the blood of Christ). It is only IN Jesus that anyone has the right to call God their Father. Didn’t Jesus Himself once say, when He was told that his mother and brothers were seeking Him, that only those who do the will of his Father are his mother, his brothers and sisters? Stephan Joubert knows this very well. He even mentions this incident in the life of Jesus on page 54. He writes:
Jesus does not blindly support traditional family values. His words that biological families are now less important than the spiritual family is a shocking statement that to this day hasn’t been understood correctly. We do not actually want to hear it, including similar words of Jesus such as in Luke 10 (it is actually Matthew 10) that He had come “to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.” Or his equally disturbing words in Matthew 8 addressed to the man who first wanted to bury his father that the dead must forthwith bury their own dead. New principles are applied by Jesus. No, He is not per se against biological families. But that is no longer the alpha and omega for him. Now it primarily concerns God and his new earthly family of followers of Christ.
From this it is quite evident that Stephan Joubert fully understands the biblical truth that not all who claim to be followers of Christ are necessarily your brothers and sisters. Multitudes followed Jesus for all the wrong reasons (because He had given them bread) but the majority had never done the will of God — to repent and believe the Gospel for their salvation. And yet, despite his exegesis on the true family of Jesus, Joubert speaks very highly of Leonard Sweet and Ron Martoia who believe that the Spirit of God dwells in all people. No wonder a good friend and brother of mine in the Lord recently said that Stephan Joubert is an enigma par excellence.
You may argue that Ron Martoia never said that everyone has the Spirit of God living in his/her innermost being; he merely said that unbelievers have the same God-like authority, qualities and mandates than the Spirit-filled children of God. How can they possibly have these qualities, mandates and authority when it is only the Holy Spirit that gives one these qualities, mandates and authority? Consider Jesus’ words in Luke 10:19 “Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you.” (Luke 10:19). The mandate to overcome the devil and his wiles is clearly only given to Christians who are filled with the Holy Spirit, NOT unbelievers! How do we know? Well, Jesus Himself once said: ” . . . it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons . . .” (Matthew 12:28). If He, the Son of God, cast out demons by the Spirit of God, how much more must mortal men do it through the Spirit of God as well? Stephan Joubert is well aware of this fact and even mentions it in his book. And yet he indirectly and radically denies it by quoting a man who categorically and radically rebuffs Jesus’ statement in Luke 10:19. Stephan Joubert may argue that he does not agree on all the things the theologians whom he quotes in his book have said in the past. So what’s wrong with quoting people with whom you don’t always agree? Well, the Bible very emphatically declares that you cannot walk the talk (journey) with someone else unless you agree with him (Amos 3:3). Are they on the same spiritual journey? You bet!
Furthermore, if it had been true that the Spirit of God is in all people, Paul, who received the Gospel directly from Jesus Christ, would never have written the following statement: “Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. (Romans 8:9). It clearly affirms that many people do NOT have the Spirit of Christ and therefore do NOT belong to or follow Him. Stephan Joubert is obviously a great fan of Ron Martoia, Leonard Sweet and Brian McLaren because he quotes them in his book without refuting them and their heresies in public. Jesus Christ seems to be of lesser importance to him than the lies these top-notch theologians proclaim. Surely, if he loved Jesus as he says, he would do everything possible to refute these liars in public who say and write derogatory things about the Lord Jesus Christ in public.
But let’s get back to Sweet’s relational sin. Lenny and Stephy may argue that the separation spoken of in Isaiah 59:1 and 2 is not the sin of breaking a relationship. In their view relationships are only broken when you inflexibly cling to and uphold biblical doctrines which to them are probably just a lot of antiquated laws. It reminds them too much of the Pharisees and the Jewish hierarchy who murdered Jesus. The pivotal doctrine of the Christian faith is the substitutionary death of God’s only Son on a cross. Here now follows a few quotes from the lips of some of the leading proponents of the emergent church who openly and in the face of the One whom they claim to be following, speak insultingly and disparagingly of his cross.
“How then have we come to believe that at the cross this God of love suddenly decides to vent his anger and wrath on his own son? The fact is that the cross isn’t a form of cosmic child abuse — a vengeful father punishing his son for an offense he has not even committed. Understandably, both people inside and outside of the church have found this twisted version of events morally dubious and a huge barrier to faith.—Steve Chalke
“I was relaxing in my parents’ swimming pool with my brother…I asked him how the engineering business was going, and he reciprocated: ‘How’s the ministry world going?’ ‘Okay,’ I said, ‘except that a couple of weeks ago I realized that I don’t know why Jesus had to die.’ Then Peter, without skipping a beat, without even a moment’s hesitation, said, ‘Well, neither did Jesus.’”—Brian McLaren
A new world needs a new form of Christianity. Well, we have a new world . . .!—Brian McLaren (Stephan Joubert used this infamous quote on page 186, not to refute or to repudiate Brian McLaren but to endorse him).
“Was God so disgusted by our sins that Jesus had to die to take them away? Or was it that God loved us so much that Jesus had to die?” [notice the false antithesis]—Spencer Burke
“I guess if I had to label what I believe, it would fall under the Universalist category…I guess my question to you [Brian McLaren] would be how should I go about this self disclosure? Since you know X [the Evangelical seminary this blogger attends], do you have any insight for me? I am pretty sure X is clearly in the ‘you must be saved to get into heaven’ camp.” Question addressed to Brian McLaren on his website (answered below)
“I’d recommend you serve, keeping potentially divisive opinions to yourself” From Brian McClaren’s answer to the above question.
“What I think I can say is, and this is where I get into trouble, I’m not so sure that when this life is over that all possibilities for salvation are over.”
Tony Campolo“It is possible for someone who does not know Jesus to be saved.” Dallas Willard.
“If modern western Christianity has become overly dualistic, might a measured dose of Zenlike monism help correct our hyperdualism?” Leonard Sweet, Brian McLaren, and Jerry Haselmayer
“Go to a bookstore and buy several copies of Tricycle magazine, the equivalent of Christianity Today for many American Buddhists. Leaf through the magazines during your gathering and make observations about the articles, graphics and tone of the publication. Feel free to take 10 or 15 minutes to allow participants to read an article silently and then summarize for the group what they have read. Note: For the first 45 minutes, no critical comments are allowed — only observations that are offered without judgment. Dialogue about these questions: What good things in Buddhism are attractive to the readers of this magazine? How do these strengths of Buddhism contrast with weaknesses in our Christian practice?” – Small group activity outlined in A is for Abductive, by Sweet, McLaren and Haselmayer
“We are top-notch theologians.”—Doug Pagitt (Emphasis added throughout)
These are all the top-notch theologians with whom Stephan Joubert likes to be in a relationship ((so as not to break the Law) and with whom he is on a never-ending quest to never-never land. He is breaking at least one command (law) of God.
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. (2Corinthians 6:14-18) If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 1:10-11).
What saith the Word of God?
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (1 Corinthians 1:18)
Ah, but Ron Martoia, Leonard Sweet, Brian MLaren and Rob Bell are not unbelievers; they are the new breed of faithful Christ followers, the new Tribe. Really? Who is this Jesus they are following?
Common sense tells us that if we never had the “antiquated” law of Moses Jesus would never have been able to enhance it by applying even stricter requirements to it. To say, according to Wolfgang Schrage, that Jesus denied the Torah (Pentateuch) is equal to say that Jesus was lawless whilst He Himself said:
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:17-20) .
Apparently the emergents have taken the liberty to slacken any law in their particular version of the Kingdom of God. As Ron Martoia so wonderfully and succinctly stated:
Notice, it is everybody, not just Christians filled with Gd’s Spirit. In the Genesis account all humanity has the very breath of God. (5)
Grow the tribe – pass the manifesto you just read to anyone on your mailing list that you think would be interested in this journey. . . . or print it out and give it to them. There has to be at least a dozen you can think of. Their religious or lack of religious affiliation does not matter at all. This tribe will be composed of all sorts of people, many considering themselves spiritual but not religious. (6)
May God have mercy on their pitiful souls.
(1) Stephan Joubert: “”Jesus, a Radical Leap, Kingdom, Church and World: Where do you fit in?” Christelike Uitgewersmaatskappy,, 2009, p. 78
(2) E.P. Sanders, The Question of Uniqueness in the Teaching of Jesus. The Ethel M. Wood Lecture 15 February 1990. London: The University of London, 1990. Pbk. ISBN: 0718709616. pp.27.
(3) Ernst Käsemann, Essays on New Testament Themes (ET London: SCM, 1964), p. 37; ‘Das Problem des historischen Jesus’, repr. in Exegetische Versuche and Bessinnungen I (Göttingen, Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht,3 1964), pp. 187-214, here p. 206.
(4) Wolfgang Schrage, The Ethics of the New Testament (ET Edinburgh: T. & T. Clark, 1988), pp. 66, 147f. Unfortunately I was unable to find a copy of the original.
(5) Ron Martoia: Spiritual Conversations: Understanding the Cultural Language.






