“As you know TOTAL DEPRAVITY is the “T” in the acronym TULIP which is the bedrock of Calvinism. I happened to stumble on a series of five Youtube videos featuring one of today’s most prolific Calvinist preachers, John MacArthur Jnr., who in defense of the doctrine of TOTAL INABILITY or UNWILLINGNESS, speaks on man’s total depravity. Having been an avid student of Calvinism and its vast influence worldwide and having debated many Calvinists on the internet for many years, I decided to watch all five videos in one session. Before I begin to examine Mac Arthur’s teaching on TOTAL DEPRAVITY in the light of God’s Word, I first would like to quote something Jesus Christ once said.
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? (Matthew 7:7-11).
And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? (Luke 11:9-13).
Jesus emphatically stated the very opposite to what the doctrine of total depravity means to the Calvinist. Despite the fact that man is evil to the very core of his innermost being, he is still capable of doing something good. Jesus never denied man’s capability to do good. In fact he acknowledged it and even used it contrastingly to demonstrate God’s own superabundant goodness. Of course man’s benevolence will never bring him into a soteriological right relationship with God; there is nothing good man can do to earn his salvation. Nevertheless, Jesus used man’s goodness toward his own children as a parallel aphorism to exhibit his Father’s goodness who is the very epitome of goodness. There is however one requirement to benefit form his goodness and that is to ask Him and to keep on asking Him. Calvinists would probably counter this with the argument that Jesus was talking to his disciples and not unbelievers. In their reckoning they are so deeply depraved that they are totally incapable of asking God for anything. Their natural propensity is to hate God and his commandments and their totally depraved disposition prevents them from ever asking Him anything. Would the Spirit of God have inspired John to write down Revelation 22:17 if this was true?
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. (Revelation 22:17)
Would or could Jesus have made the universal invitation in Matthew 11 if lost sinners were totally impotent to approach Jesus for their salvation.
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. (Matthew 11:28-30)
These words by Jesus prove that it is not the so-called elect who come to him because they alone are drawn to Him by the Father. All who are weighed down by sin and whose souls have been chafed away by the consequences of their sins, and who candidly acknowledge it to Him, are the ones who take flight to Him so that He may save them and free them of their sin. Yes, of course, it is the Father who draws sinners to his Son through the preaching of the cross, but Jesus extends his invitation to all of mankind; all men are invited to come to Him who are tired, wearied and cast down by their sins and transgressions. These are the ones who acknowledge with anxiety and trepidation that they are lost and desperately in need of a Saviour. Didn’t Jesus say that He came to seek and to save the lost? (Luke 19:10). He can and will only find those who know and acknowledge under the conviction of the Holy Spirit that they are lost sinners. Most people readily agree that they are sinners but very few acknowledge that they are lost sinners bound for hell. How and when do the elect acknowledge their lost status when they are supposedly drawn supernaturally to Jesus Christ without them knowing it until they are granted the gift of salvation and saved by a sovereign and irresistible act of God? An acknowledgment of sin subsequent to regeneration is indeed always a necessity but an acknowledgement of your lost status can only come before regeneration, not after. Sadly, the elect cannot acknowledge any such thing because their absolute inability to respond in faith to the Gospel and their total depravity prevent them from making such an acknowledgment with anxiety and trepidation. If Jesus came to the world to seek and to save the lost, and if the elect are the only ones who are saved because they alone have been elected and predestined unto salvation before the foundation of the world, then they alone are the lost and not the reprobate who have not been elected and predestined unto salvation before the foundation of the earth. But sadly, they hardly ever have the opportunity to acknowledge their lost status before regeneration because any possible vestige of faith on their part is a works orientated faith which is completely unacceptable to God. So when do they acknowledge that they are lost sinners? After their regeneration? That is, to say the least, a complete impossibility.
Here now follows the first video in the series of five by John MacArthur Jnr. called The Doctrine of Absolute Inability. While listening to MacArthur please bear in mind the above invitation of the Holy Spirit. If sinful man was absolutely unable to will and to take, the Spirit of God would never have inspired John to write down something so profoundly beautiful.
Indeed, the preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the most important calling there is for a believer. In fact Paul said, “For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!” (1 Corinthians 9:16). Paul did not preach the Gospel because he thought he was one of the most important people in the world. He had nothing to glory of; he preached it because he was compelled to do so. Like Jonah who through divine intervention was forced to go to Nineveh and warn the inhabitants of God’s immanent judgment, so was Paul flung off his horse into the dust and through divine intervention was lead to the house of Ananias where he called upon the Name of the Lord in order to be saved. The Gospel (Glad Tidings or Good News) is indeed the best news anyone, anywhere can ever hear. It is the best news because it tells you exactly how to obtain salvation through Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, the Calvinist believes it is only good news for the elect who have been predestined unto salvation before the foundation of the world and are saved through a sovereign and monergisitc intervention of God and not for anyone who is willing to respond to the Gospel of Jesus Christ in order to be saved, simply because they are absolutely unable to respond in faith to the Gospel.
Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound. Therefore I endure all things for the elect’s sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. (2 Timothy 2:9-10)
Staunch Calvinists would immediately object to the word “obtain” because it suggests that the sinner can do something on his part to “get” or “gain” redemption, unless of course, they revamp the word (as they have done with words such as “world,” “whomsoever,” and “all”) and attach to it a new meaning other than “to attain” or “to get” (τυγχάνω, tugchano { toong-khan’-o).
Having eulogized his pastoral audience with words such as “most important people in the world because they preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ” it is our duty as Bereans to examine his presentation to see whether he and his audience actually do preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ and not another Gospel inspired by another spirit and another Jesus. Therefore, as Macarthur said, it is incumbent on us that we understand the nature of our message and the foundations of our Gospel.
How does he understand the Gospel? As a point of departure he immediately began with one of the core teachings of Calvinism which is Total Depravity or unwillingness or inability as he put it. As proof of the total depravity or absolute inability or unwillingness on the part of the sinner, MacArthur reads John 5 verses 39 and 40. I could not determine which translation he used but here follows his words as he read it from his Bible that lay in front of him.
You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life and it is these that bear witness of Me and you are unwilling to come to Me that you may have life.
To put this portion of Scripture into its correct perspective and context we need to look at other translations against the backdrop of the entire chapter.
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. (KJV).
You examine the Scriptures carefully because you suppose that in them you have eternal life. Yet they testify about me. But you are not willing to come to me to have life. (International Standard Version)
You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. (English Standard Version)
Ye search the scriptures, because ye think that in them ye have eternal life; and these are they which bear witness of me; and ye will not come to me, that ye may have life. (American Standard Version)
You search and investigate and pore over the Scriptures diligently, because you suppose and trust that you have eternal life through them. And these [very Scriptures] testify about Me! And still you are not willing [but refuse] to come to Me, so that you might have life. (Amplified Bible)
John MacArthur’s eisegeses of these two verses are as follows:
Those who search the Scriptures, those who search the Scriptures with a view to eternal life, those who search the Scriptures with a view to eternal life which Scriptures bear witness to Jesus Christ are nonetheless unwilling to come to Him. Why is that? Turn to John 6 verse 44: “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.”
MacArthur’s QED (quod erat demonstrandum, ultimate proof) of the doctrine of absolute inability lies solely in his interpretation of John 6:44. Voila! only those who are drawn (that is, the elect) by the Father will come to Jesus and the rest (that is, the reprobate) whom it pleased Him NOT to draw to his Son and NOT to predestine unto salvation before the foundation of the world are NOT drawn and therefore destined for the lake of fire. John MacArthur is a little less than honest in his interpretation because had he been totally honest, he would have quoted the very next verse as well:
It is written in the prophets, And they shall all be taught of God. Every one that hath heard from the Father, and hath learned, cometh unto me. (John 6:45)
Please take note of the words “has heard” and “has learned” which clearly shows that those who have responded to the Father in hearing and leaning are the ones who come to Jesus. There is not an inkling of a suggestion here that those who come to Jesus are drawn to Him through a monergistic, sovereign and unilateral act of God the Father. I have already pointed out that MacArthur is a little less than honest but forgive me when I once again highlight his dishonesty. Had he been absolutely honest he would also have quoted Jesus who said:
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto myself. (John 12:32)
But of course, all men in Calvinism’s word perfect dictionary is not every single human being who ever lived on planet earth; all men in Calvinism’s terms are the elect and them only. When Jesus said in John 6:44 that no one can come to the Father who sent Him unless He draws him, He simply meant that God alone can draw sinners to Him because there is no other means to draw them to Him except through his cross. If God was able to draw sinners to his Son without the cross, He would have done so and it would have been totally unnecessary for Jesus to be crucified. it would not have been necessary for Him to shed his precious blood for a bunch of hell-deserving sinners. God’s drawing power is centered in the Cross of Jesus and NOT in the doctrine of his so-called sovereign election and predestination. Had his drawing power been centered in his sovereign election and predestination, He would have circumvented the cross which, of course, the Calvinists would deny. I Corinthians 1:18 Paul says that the cross is sheer foolishness to them that perish but to everyone who is being saved it is the power and the wisdom of God. All people are drawn to the cross because Jesus Himself said that He will draw ALL MEN to Him through his cross but not all are saved because they themselves are to blame for their rejection by God, not because He has not chosen them unto salvation before the foundation of the world, but because they have willfully rejected his Son’s Cross, the only means that draws men to Him. To them it is sheer foolishness.
There is also nothing in John 5:39,40 that suggests in the very slightest that sinners have no ability whatsoever to be willing. Unwilling hardly means that sinners are unable to be willing. Look at the context of the entire chapter five. The main theme in chapter five is not an alleged inability to be willing but faith; the word “believe” appears no less than seven times in the chapter:
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath eternal life, and cometh not into judgment, but hath passed out of death into life.
And the Father that sent me, he hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his form. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he sent, him ye believe not.
Think not that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, on whom ye have set your hope. For if ye believed Moses, ye would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Furthermore the word “unwilling” which John MacArthur used in his reading of that passage can never denote an absolute inability. Its grammatical relationship to the positive form “willingness” makes it impossible to attach a meaning of “absolute inability” to it. Like darkness which exists because of a complete lack of light, so unwillingness exists because of a lack or absence of willingness. You can never be unwilling without its antonym of “willing.” If you are able to be unwilling you are naturally able to be willing as well. It is nothing else than a choice which is entrenched in your divinely gifted free-will. Unbelief, unbelief, unbelief was the reason for their spiritual condition and not a complete inability to be willing.
No truly born again child of God will deny that man is completely unable to contribute to his or her salvation. Anyone who assumes in the very slightest that sinners have at least some good in them to appease God for Him to save them, is deluded. But what does John MacArthur mean when he says that sinners are unable to make any contribution to their salvation? If man is incapable of willing his/her salvation and so utterly and totally depraved to respond to the Gospel then surely even his faith is as filthy as rotten old rags (Isaiah 64:6). Is this the vein of John MacArthur’s teaching on good works that even your faith is a self-centered work and as such cannot be accepted by God? Let met remind you what the Holy Spirit says in Revelation 22:17, a verse Calvinists hardly ever quote or even remotely mention when they deal with their doctrine of absolute inability.
The nature of saving faith part 5 (The embedding of this video was disabled by request). Click on the link on the left to take you to Youtube where you can watch it at your leisure. The quote beneath starts at 5 minutes 41 seconds into the video
The definition of saving faith. Very simple. One, it is a gift from God. It is a g-i-f-t- from God. In Ephesians 2 8 and 9 “By grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.” Faith is a gift of God. Now what is the gift of God here? Some say it is faith, some say it is not faith. The Greek scholar BF Westcott says the gift of God is the saving energy of faith. Others feel you can’t take “that” in the Greek because you have here a neuter and a feminine. For example, “for by grace you have been saved through faith” – faith is feminine in gender – and that is neuter. So you can’t use a neuter pronoun to define a feminine substitute. And so some would feel more comfortable with saying “that” must embrace the whole act of salvation. Fine, wonderful. Do you know what is part of the whole act of salvation, you are saved by grace through faith, “that” none of yourselves. So if you want to take it to the all encompassing grace, the faith, the salvation, the whole thing is a gift from whom? – from God. I feel comfortable with that, do you? It embraces the whole thing, either way faith is included. Jesus said to Peter, verse 17 of Matthew 16 “Blessed are you Simon, son of Jonah because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you but my Father who is in heaven.” What does He say? Peter just said “Thou art the” . . . what? – “the Christ,” Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. That is a confession, that is a saving confession, and Jesus said to Him, you didn’t get that from flesh and blood. My father gave you that faith; my Father gave you that revelation. It is the Father God who enables anyone to believe. Man blocked deeply in the deadness of his own sin could not generate his own faith. John 6:44: “No one can come to Me, implying in faith, unless the Father who sent Me draws him. Verse 47 “Truly truly I say to you, he who believes has eternal life.” Those two verses come together to say the Father gives you faith. The Father draws you by . . . your faith. It’s a gift of God, it’s a gift of God. It can be no less than that for fallen nature cannot generate faith in God. Sometimes you hear people say that faith is a natural thing. . . . Natural faith cannot save you, supernatural faith can, it comes from God. Listen to verse 16 of Acts 3: Peter preaching, “And on the basis of faith in his Name, it is the Name of Jesus which has strengthened this man” he just healed, “whom you see and know,” listen to this, “and the faith which comes through Him, that is Jesus Christ, has given him this perfect health.” You know why that man was healed, because he believed, you know from whom he got his faith, from whom? from Christ. This faith which comes through Him.
John McArthur says several things about saving faith in the above video that is not in harmony with God’s Word and even his own confession of faith. Let’s begin with his statement: “It is the Father God who enables anyone to believe.” Not only is this inconsistent with MacArthur’s own belief in the doctrine of election and predestination, it nullifies his view of John 6:44 “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him.” If God only draws the elect and sovereignly and supernaturally grants them the gift of faith subsequent to their salvation through an act of irresistible grace, then HE does NOT enable anyone to believe. If you want to be consistent with the doctrine of election and predestination, the honest thing to do is to acknowledge that God enables the elect ONLY to believe. It is this kind of double-talk that confuses many people.
The general order of events in the salvaiton of the elect, according to a Calvinist, are as follows:
- The elect are dead in sin and trespasses (as dead as a corpse or cadaver). Thet cannot respond in faith to the Gospel, even though they may search the Sriptures day and night, simply because they are unwilling (unable) to come to Christ for their salvation.
- The only way the elect can come to Christ Jesus is to be drawn to Him by God the Father. God draws the elect only because He bestows his love on them ONLY AND, I repeat, AND He died for them on the cross. The wretched non-elect are not drawn to Jesus by the Father. Yes! He loves them but his Son did NOT die for them on the cross.
- The drawn elect are then regenerated by a sovereign, irresistable, monergistic, and unilateral act of God. He regenerates them without having to have faith in his Son and his Gospel, simply because of their absolute inabilty to generate any faith of their own. God must gtant them faith subesequent to their rgeneration. Only then do they have faith to believe in Jesus Christ and his Gospel.
If, as Calvinists believe, man is totally depraved and unable to understand and respond in faith to the Gospel in order to be saved, at what stage do the elect become aware of their lost status so that they may bend down low and humble themselves (admit that they are lost) in order to enter the strait gate? Allow me to rephrase my question a wee bit. At what stage does the Holy Spirit convict the elect of sin, righteousness and judgment? If God unilaterally, monergistically, sovereignly and irresistibly redeems the elect without them having to understand and believe the Gospel just because they are unable to do so, then their is no need whatsoever for the Holy Spirit to convict them of their sins and lost status.
“That’s just not true!” is what the Calvinists probably would say to this. “The Holy Spirit convicts them of sin, righteousness and judgment subsequent to their redemption and after they had received faith as a gift from God.” Really . . .? Please bear in mind that the Holy Spirit does not only convict of sins but also of God’s righteous judgments. As I said earlier, many people admit that they are sinners but refuse to believe that a God of love would execute his righteous judgments by casting them into hell, if they do not repent and believe the Gospel.
Although the conviction of sin is essential before and after a person’s salvation, the conviction of God’s righteous judgments (the Holy Spirit inspired acknowledgment that hell is your inevitable destination if you should refuse to believe the Gospel and repent) can only occur BEFORE salvation, never AFTER salvation. If Jesus spoke the truth in John 16:7-11, then the Holy Spirit MUST convict every person (including Calvin’s predestined elect) of God’s righteous judgments BEFORE redemption. It is absurd to believe that the Holy Spirit convicts the elect after they had been redeemed sovereignly, irresistibly and monergistically by God. It would amount to the irrational situation where the Holy Spirit’s warning with regard to God’s righteous judgments reach the ears and heart of the elect AFTER they had already been set free from God’s righteous judgments. Can the Holy Spirit simultaneously say to someone “You are on your way to a well-earned hell” and “You have been set free of God’s righteous judgments” after having been redeemed irresistibly, monergistically and sovereignly? If you have already been set free from God’s righteous judgments by virtue of your irresistibly and sovereignly imposed redemption by the Holy Spirit, then you cannot possibly be convicted of judgment by the same Holy Spirit after your irresistibly imposed redemption. What’s the logic in that?
Please watch this video, if you will, and tell me whether the God of the Bible is a God of confusion. While you are watching, bear in mind what MacArthur had said in the above quote: “It is the Father God who enables anyone to believe.” If he really wanted to be consistent he should have said: “It is the Father God who enables the elect to believe.”
TOTAL confusion, I repeat TOTAL CONFUSION, sets in when the questionnaire asks John MacArthur the question: ”How do we tell people God loves them and that Jesus Christ did not die for them?” Notice now the most profound, intellectual, spiritually grown-up answer ever to come from the lips of a scholar.
“Well, you tell them whatever the Bible tells you to tell them, and the Bible tells you to go into all the world and to preach the word to every creature, and that’s what you do and that’s what the Scripture says”
Great! Wonderful! Now we know exactly why God loves the non-eleect so much that He forbad his Son to die for them on the cross. You tell them that because that is what the Bible tells you to do, to preach the Word of God to every creature but not all creatures because Jesus did not love ALL CREATURES to die for most of the creatures. Will someone please tell me how this fits in with John’s declaration that “It is the Father God who enables anyone to believe?” Believe what? . . . That God loves them and because He loves them Jesus did not die for them?” Fancy that! That truly is “GOOD NEWS, GLAD TIDINGS.” Chapter and verse please! But wait, it gets even better.
John MacArthur continues to say that “any tension between that (the fact that you must go into all the world and preach the Gospel, GLAD TIDINGS, to every creature) and the nature of the atonement, any tension you have between that and the doctrine of divine election and predestination, any tension you feel in those areas, I feel.” Ok, that’s just a great comfort for those whom God loves but for whom Jesus did not die— to know and to understand that John MacArthur feels the very same tension they feel when they hear this kind of GOOD NEWS (Gospel). In fact, John MacArthur’s empathy for these poor and wretched creatures whom God dearly loves but for whom Jesus did not die, greatly exceeds the compassion and empathy Jesus Christ feels for them. At least John MacArthur feels for them while God openly declares that it his good pleasure to damn them to an eternal hell. John MacArthur’s mercy seems to outstrip the mercy, loving-kindness, compassion and grace of God. Calvin wrote:
Scripture clearly proves … that God by his eternal and immutable counsel determined once for all those whom it was his pleasure one day to admit to salvation, and those whom, on the other hand, it was his pleasure to doom to destruction. ” (John Calvin: Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 7, Sec. 2210).
So you see, John McArthur’s feelings of empathy for the lost outstrips that of God who only experiences pleasure and satisfaction when He sends people to hell.
One of the Calvinists most brilliant emergency exits when they cannot or will not answer tough questions is to say “Don’t blame me, blame God.” However, John MacArthur who has learnt the art to say this in not so blunt a manner but like a real gentleman who honors and respects God’s sovereignty to the hilt, says: “I don’t know that there is some kind of a quick answer to the question. I am, however, happy to concede that God can resolve things that I can’t” The audience happily applauds his deeply profound and spiritually uplifting words. But let’s take a closer look at what he has said in the light of his brilliant answer that we should go into all the world and preach the Gospel to all the creatures. Let’s do it along the lines of a little dramatization. After the Calvinist preacher had delivered a really good sermon, a person sitting at the back gets up and asks:
Mr. X: Sir, what must I do to be saved?
Preacher: You must realize, sir, that I can only present you with the truth and nothing but the truth.
Mr X: But that’s what I really would like to know, the truth. I read somewhere in the Bible that you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free.
Preacher: Ok! First of all, you must realize there is nothing you can do for your own salvation. Faith is a gift of God. Your own generated faith is as dead as a corpse. Secondly, you ought to know that God loves you. However, you must also know that God has two kinds of love — one for his elect and one for the non-elect. The one for the elect includes the death of Christ on the cross while his love for the non-elect EXCLUDES the death of Christ on the cross.
Mr X: Which am I, elect or non-elect.
Preacher: Well, no one knows. You will only know when you have been regenerated through a sovereign and irresistible act of God. Or, as Spurgeon said, if you had an “E” stamped on your back we may know whether you are an elect person. But we won’t do that because you will have to take off your jacket, pull your shirt over your head to expose your back ti us so that we may see whether you have an “E.” We wouldn’t want to do that, whould we?
Mr X: What does ot meadn to be regenrated by a sovereign and irresistable act of God?
Preacher: Well, have you read how Paul was saved?
Mr X: Yes, but I do not understand it. Do you want me to fall off something before I can be saved?
Preacher X: No! But let me show you a short video clip of someone I know very well. He is a great man of God who has the doctrine of election and predestination on the tips of his fingers. Ready?
Mr X: Yes!
Preacher: Sir, do you now understand how saving faith works?
Mr. X: Not quite! I heard someone say that God loves everyone but that his Son did not die for everyone. How do you reconcile these two diametrically opposing truths, if they are the truth? Or is it a post-modern paradox we must accept?
Preacher: This is perhaps the most difficult precept in the doctrine of salvation. I don’t know. no one knows. I am, however, happy to concede that God can resolve things that I can’t. Even Paul conceded that “. . .now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known. So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.” (1 Corinthians 13:12-13). He didn’t know! God’s magnanimous love is a mystery and that (his love) is all that will remain in the end, even though it pleased him NOT to have his Son die for the non-elect or the reprobate as we sometimes call them. Do you understand?
Mr. X: Not quite, but at least I know that some of our most esteemed spiritual leaders, such as yourself, are equally puzzled and befuddled and at least I have learnt to happily concede that God alone can resolve this problem.
Its obvious that Mark Drsicol hasn’t seen John MacArthur’s videos yet. Remember, he quoted Paul who echoed Moses’ words:
My desire is that the Jewish people would meet Jesus, the Messiah, that they would love Him and turn to Him and my whole life is about proclaiming Jesus so that many people as possible become Christians and so that the Jews in particular would come to know the Messiah, that they have long been waiting for.
Wait a sec. didn’t John MacArthur say Jesus didn’t die on the cross to make it possible for people to be saved. His words were: “ I believe that his atonement was an actual one and not a potential one. I don’t think it was a general one, I think it was a specific one. I think it was real death for sin.” There is absolutely no possibility in the nature of the atonement of Jesus Christ. Had his atonement made it possible for as many people possible to be saved, His death would have been a failure. Why? Because the very thought that many people for whom He had died will be in hell is a doubble jeopardy. It just doesn’t work. according to John McArthur. Mark, you’d better start watching John McArthur’s YouTube videos to learn what the genuine doctrine of election and predestination really is about.
Don’t these guys ever read their Bibles or are they deliberately omitting vital portions of Scripture? I contend that Paul was NOT saved when he fell off his horse in the dust on his way to Damascus. Please read here how Paul was saved. Unlike John McArthur who criticizes someone who encourages lost sinners to receive Jesus as Saviour, Ananias prodded, urged and encouraged Paul not to procrastinate but to immediately call upon the Name of Jesus so that he might be saved. And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. (Acts 22:16; Acts 2:21).
Mark Driscol comes to the conclusion that the doctrine of predestination fuels evangelism after reading Romans 9 with special emphasis on Paul’s words in verse 3: “For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh.” Wow! Paul was prepared to go to hell in stead of his Jewish brethren if only that could contribute to their salvation? Wow! Who else but Jesus Christ Himself would be prepared to do that? Do you really think Paul would want to do that if he was the quintessential promoter of the doctrine of election and predestination, especially when he himself allegedly experienced an electoral and predestined salvation on his way to Damascus? How stupid it would have been of him to go to hell for the sake of the reprobate when they were destined for hell in any case, even before the foundation of the earth. He would have been in hell with all the reprobates for all eternity. Think of it, an elected woud have been in helll for all eternity if his prayer had been granted. It would have been equally stupid of him to go to hell for the sake of the elect when they are all bound for heaven in any case, even before the foundation of the earth. That would have been the grossest mistake Paul had ever made because he would habe been in hell while all the elect were in heaven. Fancy Paul saying something like this: I, a staunch believer in the doctrine of election and predestination, know that the elect, without any exception, are all going to heaven because Jesus’ death was an actual one and not a potential one, it was a specific one and not a general one, it was real death for sin, and yet I am still prepared to suffer an eternity in hell for their sake. Or, imagine him saying something like this: I, a staunch believer in the doctrine of election and predestination, know that all the non-elect, without exception, are going to hell and yet, I am willing to go to hell for their sakes so that I too may be in hell and suffer with them for all eternity.
I said it before and I am going to say it again: The doctrine of election and predestination unto salvation is a confusing, illogical, irrational, and totally unreasonable dogma. In short, it’s a dumb doctrine because it defies the logic in all the issues of salvation. No wonder Paul wrote:
Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves]. (Romans 1:22)
Once again, would anyone want to go to hell in behalf of the elect who are going to heaven in any case and would they be prepared to go to hell in behalf of the non-elect who are going to hell in any case? Its just too preposterous to even contemplate that this is what Paul had in mind when he expressed his anguish in behalf of his brethren the Jews.
Paul loved his Jewish brethren after the flesh so much that he, like Moses, was prepared to be cast into hell in their behalf if that had in any way been possible to save them. Now note John McArthur’s frivolous and shallow answer to the question: “”How do we tell people God loves them and that Jesus Christ did not die for them?” With arms outstretched and an elated smile on his face John MacArthur said: “The best answer to this question, is ‘my brother I feel your pain.’ That’s the best answer to that question.” The audience joins him in his pain when they burst out in laughter. Moses was prepared to go to hell for the sake of the salvation of his people, Jeremiah wept day and night for his Jewish brethren; Paul wept and was prepared to suffer the pangs of hell for all eternity; Jesus wept and did indeed suffer the pangs of hell on the cross for his Jewish brethren. But all that John MacArthur can say is: “My brother, I feel your pain.” Would John MacArthur be prepared to suffer in hell for the sake of the non-elect? Would he suffer in hell for the sake of the elect? Of course not! If he’d been willing he would have conceded to do the most preposterous thing any man could ever have wanted to do in the entire history of mankind. To say the least, it would be the dumbest thing anyone would have wanted to do. It superabundantly goes beyond any man’s reason.
And then . . .? And then followed his Magna Carte for salvation. Listen to this. Please note that the above video was a special Q&A session when the audience had an opportunity to ask some questions, especially those questions that have never been answered satisfactorily in Calvinism, and yet John MacArthur says. “I’m not here to give you an answer and then answers anyway.
I’m not here to give you an answer, but I will tell you this: I do not believe that Jesus died for nobody, I believe that He died for somebody and I believe that He died specifically for those who would believe in Him and those who believe in Him are those who are regenerated based on the eternal, sovereign, electing purpose of God. I believe that his atonement was an actual one and not a potential one. I don’t think it was a general one, I think it was a specific one. I think it was real death for sin. (What he says here in effect is that if Jesus died for all people while most of them are going to hell, his death would have been a complete failure. But now, his death on the cross was not a failure because every single elect person who ever lived, shall be saved. Let’s take this argument through to Jesus’ words in Luke 19:10, “For the Son of Man came to seek and to save that which was lost.” If every single elect person will be saved, without any exception, and if Jesus died for them only to make sure his death on the cross was a success and not a failure, it would follow that only the elect are lost and not the reprobate. Had the reprobate been lost as well He would have come to the world to save them as well, simply because He said (and He is not a liar) that He had come to seek and to save the lost. The only logical conclusion to be made from the argument that He could not have died for all people because if He had, whilst most people are going to hell, his crucifixion would have been a failure, is that the reprobate are not lost.Therefore, only the elect are lost for they are the only ones being saved).
The issue here is the nature of atonement. Forget the dilemma. You’re going to have the dilemma no mater what you do. The dilemma is why doesn’t He send everyone to heaven? The dilemma is, why is there a hell and why are people going there? That is a legitimately difficult question to ask and the only answer I can give you is that if God purposed to do that, Romans 9, who are we to question his purpose. If He gets glory from judgment the way He gets glory from salvation, who are we to question Him?
The other issue is: Nobody goes to hell for any other reason than that they are guilty of sin and unbelief. How that fits, I don’t know but there are a lot of things I don’t’ know. . . . I will not resolve the problem of the lost any other way than to do what the Scriptures tell me to do and that is that the Bible affirms to me that God loves the world, the specific people in the world, the specific human beings, I don’t know who they are. Spurgeon said: “If you pull up their shirts and show me an “e” stamped on their backs and I know the elect I’ll limit my work to them.” But there is no such stamp. I am committed to preach the word to every creature and I can say to them that the love of God has been expressed through Jesus Christ’s death on the cross and you will know and experience that love if you put your faith in Him. If you don’t do that you will perish in your sins and Jesus said, you will perish in your sins because you do not believe on Me. [How can you expect anyone to put their faith in Him when they are so utterly depraved and inexorably bound to an absolute inability? To say to someone “put your faith in Him” in the Calvinist’s way of thinking, must therefore sound something like this: “You are utterly, utterly incapable of putting your faith in Jesus because you are utterly, utterly depraved. In any case, if you had been capable of putting your faith in Him, your faith would be nothing but a work and our best works are but filthy rags. Real faith is a gift of God and He will only grant you his faith as a gift after He has regenerated you through a monergistic, sovereign, irresistible and unilateral act of grace. The bottom-line, therefore, is that you WILL believe because you ARE the elect and you WILL put your faith in Him because as an elect person you have no other choice. Since when do men have a free-will anyway?” So, to tell someone to put his faith in Jesus lest he be damned while they are not in the least capable of doing it, is the cruelest prank you can play on a person. However, we should bear in mind that we cannot resolve these tensions because we simply don’t know. A person who wrote a comment on the new blog http://4loveofthetruth scolded me for not understanding Calvinism. How can I when their own teachers and gurus do not understand Calvinism? I responded but my comment was subjected to moderation for a rather long time, proving that the moderators weren’t very keen to place my comment. I eventually wrote them an e-mail requesting them to remove my not-yet—moderated comment. They eventually removed it with deeply felt and regretful reluctance).
. . . I’m very comfortable to just take the Biblical aspect but I don’t think it’s a good solution to diminish the nature of the atonement to have Jesus dying for everybody. If you say that He paid the penalty for all the sins of all the world then what is anybody doing in hell? That’s double jeopardy! That doesn't work! (If you haven’t started weeping at this point, you must be a Calvinist who, like John MacArthur, feels the pain of others because Jesus never died for them but nevertheless smiles about it and makes his audience laugh. Please note: MacArthur has just said that Jesus said “if YOU do not PUT YOUR FAITH in Him you will perish in your sins.” Isn’t that the reason why people are going to hell. Jesus said so, and although MacArthur quoted Jesus he doesn’t believe Him. But don’t worry, that’s just another strange dichotomy (tension) in the doctrine of election and predestination we will never understand).
It’s a good question to answer. You guys should be very careful about the tensions that are in this and it flows to every major doctrine in Scripture that connects the sinner with God. You don’t want to resolve that question by asking philosophical questions; you always want to live in that tension by being obedient to Scripture. Okay? But I do feel your pain because I don't have an answer to all those questions. (Questions on the eternal destiny of men, women and children and the vicarious death of Jesus Christ on the cross . . . merely philosophical questions? What must I do to be saved? — a philosophical question? Thank God that Peter was the preacher on the Day of Pentecost and NOT John MacArthur or any other Calvinist. Can you imagine what his answer would have been if he’d been there and someone asked Him “Sir, what must we do?” Well now, dear sir, I really do not want to delve too deeply into all the tensions of the nature of the Jesus’ atonement on the cross.I merely want to obey the Scriptures. I also do not want to succumb to the temptation of answering philosophical questions. But! you must remember that you are in no position whatsoever to generate your own faith. It is a gift of God. You are so utterly depraved that you cannot possibly expect to do anything. In fact you are as dead as a cadaver and you need to be raised from your spiritual death (much like Lazarus who was raised from the dead, although his example is rather inappropriate because he was already a saved man when he was raised form the dead) before you can even think of exercising your divinely gifted faith. I must add that I cannot possibly know whether Jesus died on the cross for you specifically because I do not know whether you are one of the elect. Perhaps, if you would care to lift your tunic over your head so that I can see whether an “e” is written on your back, I, like the great preacher Spurgeon, would know for certain whether you are one of the elect. I would then know whether I should continue to minister God’s saving grace to you.”
John MacArthur definitely was not at the conference to give his audience answers. He was there to ask more questions and to cause more confusion that already exists in Calvinism. I can only reiterate what Jesus said to Nicodemus: “Are you the teacher [of your flock] and yet do do not understand these things?” (John 3:10).
I must haste to end. In closing I would again like to briefly refer to my contention with the blog moderators of http://4loveofthetruth.wordpress.com. In the first and last e-mail I received from them they said one of the most strangest things imaginable.
Now, I know there are people from all sides who just love to prove their pet doctrines right and paint the other side as wrong, but what’s the point? What can bashing Biblical doctrines achieve? Should we not display any concern regarding that while we waste time arguing our little point against other Christians, many people are sinking into hell? I have made this point before in a conversation with you. Mostly, doctrine bashers are the ones who say that it’s up to human free will! You’d think they would labour harder than those who hold to theology of the cross, instead of trying to disprove the doctrines of grace.
They don’t want to be labeled as Calvinists but I counted no less than ten articles by John MacArthur or his church Grace to You, on their blog. They defend their Calvinist disclaimer as follows:
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I responded as follows:
I really don’t think contending for the faith is Bible bashing, especially when salvation is the topic. Ironically you state that many people are sinking into hell while you feature articles of people who present another Gospel. What I cannot understand is that you place articles by John Mac Arthur who believes that God loves everyone but that his Son did not die on the cross for everone. That’s not Glad Tidings, is it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mleum3jZ1E&playnext=1&list=PL9F6B7C98B0B8E99F
By the by, why would a Calvinist (and I’m not suggesting you are) be concerned about sinners going to hell when it is God’s good pleasure to send them there? If you’re not sharing in God’s good pleasure, you are being downright disobedient to Him. So let’s all just take pleasure in the damnation of the reprobate like God because it exhibits His unfathomable grace and mercy. Similarly, why would a Calvinist be concerned about sinners going to hell when every single elected and predestined person is going to heaven anyway? So, the bottom-line must be that a Calvinists should not and indeed have no concern for people on their way to hell.
John MacArthur is a fiery opponent of the Emerging Church and has spoken out against them on many occasions. Nonetheless, I am of the opinion that Calvinism is a far greater danger than the Emerging Church because the angel of light’s light seems to shine much brighter in their doctrine of election and predestination than in the Emerging Church.